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Re: ONLINE MEDITATION!!
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2007, 11:25:00 PM »
Anuradha:

Yes akka. Your post reminded me of the wonderful trips we had with Master to the beach. I was too young to remember much of them. You guys are really blessed to remember those things more vividly than I do.

Ananth:

Questions are always better out than in. Please dont feel that questions are silly.

1. Socks give you an instant temperature change and your feet will feel the same temperature every day irrespective of your bodies (as the socs will adjust to that quickly). If you dont wear them, atleast initially, you might get pulled into "feeling" your legs and temperature there. There is a reason for this. Most of the day the feet are planted to the ground and they are quite warm. But once we sit, they are exposed to the air and detect temp changes easily. Especially when we try to make our mind sit, it starts to notice these things. This, and feeling scratches around the body, or feeling uncomfortable about the posture are the three main disturbers of meditation. They pull us back into the world around us.

It is an evolutionary and natural thing.. If we dont feel the world around us and get lost frequently during the earlier periods of evolution, theres a good chance of becoming prey to predators.. So the mind constantly alerts us to these things. So, if we maintain things like socks, once we get used to it after wearing them (which takes about a minute), they wont bother us.

Thats why the socks.

If you dont have flowers, you can use Akshintalu. or leaves of any kind. But when plucking leaves are flowers, remember to remember that you are plucking them to offer them to Baba and that it is good for both you and those leaves. Feel sorry for the ones that got missed out from plucking and mentally tell them to prey so that they might get plucked the next day and rest at the feet of the Master.

Jai Sai Master!



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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2007, 11:25:24 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

How did your meditation go?


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« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2007, 11:25:36 PM »
And one more thing..

Jai Sai Master!

If you dont have a "japa Maala" with you, you can use a "Tulasi Mala" (Rosary) as your Japa Maala.

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« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2007, 11:25:51 PM »
Ja i Sai Master!

My second day's meditation:

Initially I was not able to stop active thinking; I realised this after I wrote down a couple of thoughts.
After this when I tried to observe my mind, some of the thoughts that came were: my mind is like a T.V./computer/Heart beat monitor - desperately looking for some channel/picture to display.It is not used to the silent buzz...
I felt like I was watching the inside of my eyelids and I remembered that E.D. garu had mentioned regarding meditation during the 'Manikaynagaram' trip that ' drishti ni antermukham chesukovali'. I wondered if I was doing that.
Overall there was a sense of calmness.

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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2007, 11:33:57 PM »
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Swamy!

Today is the third day that I completed my meditation as was discussed by Sai Bandhus online, and directed by Sri Babu garu.

Thursday

This was the holy day of Poornima, and an auspiscious day. I followed everything as was discussed, except that I did not wear socks, I am going to buy the socks ASAP. Another one was Flowers. I will try to offer flowers to THE MASTER as frequently as possible, but that might not be possible everyday. I asked for forgiveness to Master garu.

Friday

I did the abhishek of Sri Master's padukas (thinking in my heart that there are Padukas in front of me) by pouring water into the small vessel. Lighted the Lamp, and the incense. Then looked at the Master's photograph, and started imagining that HE is in all the books, the shelves, the carpet, the walls, the photos, the vigrahas. He is in the breath that I am taking and in my heart.

Then I took some minutes to breathe deeply and meditate on HIM. Then I started observing Sri Master in my thoughts. I should say I am really surprised, because my mind is always like a mad monkey jumping around and never in one place even for a second. But today, there were atleast some moments where I was thinking just about MASTER and nothing else. But those were brief moments. Once every couple of seconds, it keeps jumping. I could just imagine Master's sayings, "okka khshanamu Sadguruvu deggera ekaagrata gaa manassu nilapatamu ento kashtamu" from the chapter "Dakshina". First of all, we don't have Sadguru in the physical form, but to be imagining THEM to be in front of us, and then actually, putting our Mind to THEM is so so so tough. But those brief moments were really good. Gives us the glimpse of the unknown happiness that we can achieve if we keep on doing the dhyana.

Coming back to my meditation, Babu garu, you are so clear and forward thinker, sometimes, (please forgive me if I am committing blasphemy) I see Master garu in your thoughts that you put forth. For example, the physical discomforts during Meditation, like socks, that you were specifying. Your thoughts are bang on target.

Most of my 15 minutes was spent on

A) Scratching my face, or other parts of my body. There was no real itch I guess, but it is the mind's workshop to tell us that it is restless, if we want it to rest and be calm. Mind is trying to tell me, "naa mukku meeda durada vestondi.... naa toda meeda chetulu pettaku...naa paadalu timmirekkayi...." etc etc etc. So, most of my time was spent like that, but like I said, as soon as I ( at this point, I also wondered, who is actually realizing that my mind is compalining of those things and then actually coming back to Master for a couple of seconds) realized that my mind is run away from Master, then I let it stay again on Master (probably 2 to 5 seconds) and then same old "naatakaalu".

B) This seems funny but it happens to me a lot. My mind also races forward and thinks (i) that I am writing this to the Sai Bandhus online (ii) that I am discussing with Babu garu and others about my meditations processes (iii) that I am writing down in the notebook and then into my laptop about my experiences. All this happens in my mind during the meditation, while it hasnt happened yet. Does this happen to anybody else?

C) Other commong thoughts like talking to friends, talking to my mom, my wife, my daughter etc etc.

Then I opened my eyes, prayed to Master that no matter what I should keep my meditation for ever. And then took simple easy breathing with no other thoughts. Then I read the first page of Buddha Dhayana Hrudayamu.


Saturday

My Meditation today was almost same as yesterday, but with even more thoughts attacking me. Infact, my calmness was less than yesterday. There were some moments ( by "moments" I mean to say, they were really really 1 ro 3 seconds ). Also, one good thing that happened to me in these 3 days and usually it happens, whenever my mind is completely at rest is, when I close my eyes, and my mind is tired of complaining of physical discomforts, going here and there and what not, and then comes back to Master, at that point, when I have my eyes closed, I get a feeling (again "brief") that Master is sitting in front of me PHYSICALLY, but in a tiny way (like Hanuman) and moving around on the dias where the vigrahas and photos are kept. That brief experience is really exciting and happy and scared and overwhelmed. This happens to me lots of times.

Babu garu, you were mentioning about Japa Mala again ( I know that you mentioned in the list of things in your first thread, but I did not encounter anywhere of its use (yet) and I was thinking its use has not yet come (for meditation purposes). Please forgive me, did I miss anything?

And finally, Babu garu, I am actually shameful because I thanked all the Gods and Gurus for giving me this wonderful oppurtunity to practise meditation, but I did not even thank you. My humble apologies. I Thank You from the bottom of my heart for giving us all, this oppurtunity to 1) set right our minds and mentalities by concentrating them on the holy feet of Sri Sai and Sri Master 2) to push ourselves further into the spiritual realm of Sai Tattva and 3) trying to look for Sai on everybody and everything.

My Pranaamas to my Sadguru Sri Chaitanya Swamy, Parama Guru Sri Alivelumanga Sahita Bharadwaja Guru Devulu, and finally to Paremeswarulu, Master of the Universe Sri SaiNath Maharaj.

Jai Sai Master!!

Ananth

PS: From tomorrow onwards, I will take more time to share my experriences. Because, my mind being a monkey all the time, I would not want to discuss that, unless it is seriously and repeatedly harrassing me in my meditation process.



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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2007, 11:36:12 PM »
Babugaru namasthe. naa peru chinmayi. Online Meditation lo participate chesenduku avakasamu icchina meeku, aseessulu icchina Sri Sreeramachandra Chaitanya Swamyji ki, Sri Satchidananda Sadguru Alivelumangamma Sahitha Bharadwaja Gurudevulaku, Sarveswarudaina Sainathulakoo naa namaskaramulu.
7th night (Ist day) meeru cheppina vidhangaa Sri Mastergariki Paadalakuu
abhishekam chesi, namaskaaram chesukoni Meditation modalupettanu naalonoo, annitilonooo Sri Mastergare unnaru ane bhaavana nilupukotaniki try chestoo. akkada kasepu oka bhavam vacchindi. patamlo, naalo, grandhalalalo, innitilo Mastergaru veru verugaa
unnattu elaa anukovali? ventane Mahatmula Muddubiddadu lo "choodu, annitini choostoo, indulo devudunnadu indulo devudunnadoo anukontoo
bhaavistaavu. kaanee alaakaadu. idi antha kalipi aayane" ani Sri Mastergaru cheppinadi gurthu vacchindi. kaanee antha kalipi aayane anedi elaaga annadi andaledu. alaage koochonna kasepatiki naa body chala peddadi gaa avutunnattu
anipinchindi. ilaa koddisepu anipinchindi.

ninna 8th night meditation lo Sri Mastergari paadalaku abhishekamu chesukoni, meeru naaku icchina oka CD loni Sri Mastergari roopamu manasuloki tecchukoni aa roopam nilupukodaniki try chestoo koochonnanu.(andulo Sri Mastergarini pratyakshanga choosinattu undi kaabatti) ikkada evo thoughts vastoone unnayi. okka alochana matrame raasukonnanu. taruvatha Sri Mastergaru baaga podugga maa roof antha ettuna unnattu gaa anipinchindi. ivvala early morning Sri Mastergaru kalaloki vaccharu. aayana paadalaku namaskaaram chesukonnanu. taruvaatha aayana kaallu massage chestunnattu gaa pattanu. aayana kaallu Sri Guru Shushroosha grandhamlo chadivinattu dhrudhangaa unnayi. taruvaatha aayana naa kallalloke (eyes) choostunnarata. nenu alaage choostunnanata aayana kallaloki. naaku cheppalenantha anandamugaa unnattu kalalone telustondi.
ivvala 3rd day, meditation lo naa mind cheppalenantha disturbed gaa undi. thoughts annee Sri Mastergari chuttoone unnayi. nenu thoughts observe cheste Sri Mastergaru naa mundu koorchoni unnaru. naa oopiri roopangaa aayana unnaru. ilaa anukovali ani matrame anipistondi. kaanee enthakee manasu okka second kuda nilavaledu.

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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2007, 11:36:32 PM »
Jai Sai Master

Babu Garu

Namaste. Please enroll me for the meditation.

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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2007, 11:36:48 PM »
Jai Sai Master
Babugaru namasthe. nenu chinmayi ni. ivvala (Sept.10th Sunday) meditation lo naa mind, total time antha bayati sounds ni gamaninchatam lone undi. windows, room door close chese unna, bayatinunchi cars veltunna aa sound gamanistondi. room avathala naa grand daughter matlaade maatalu vinadaniki try chestondi. inkaa kasepu alaage ivi gamaninchaka room loni silence sound ni gamanistondi. taruvaatha Sri Sai Mastergaru cheppinattu, manasu ekkadekkadiki veltondo akkada Sri Mastergarine choodalani try cheste naaku breathing sarigga andatam ledu anna feeling vastondi. ee manasu ilaa veltondi ani edaithe gamistondo akkada mind nilapaalani choosinaa oopiri sarigga andatam ledu. gattiga breath cheyyali anipistondi. ivvala Meditation loni time antha ilaage gadichindi.
naaku Adhyatmika Abhivrudhi anugrahinchamani Sri Sainatha Sadguru Samraat ni, Datta Sai Swarupulaina Satchidananda Sadguru Alivelumangamma Sahitha Pujya Sri Bharadwaja GUrudevulanee, Satchidananda Sadguru Sri Sreeramachandra Chaitanya Swamy nee
mimmulanoo prardhistunnanu.
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2007, 11:37:05 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

Dear Dwaraka Annayya,

My Respects to Sri Sai Baba, Sri Master, Sri Ammagaru, Sri Ramachandra Chaitanya Swamy! I am thanking for the great opportunity to practice meditation. And wonderful help from the great great Sadguru!

On the first day of Meditation, it was great! It is so lucky, for meditation on an auspicious day and special day!

Thursday September 7

I made good preparation for meditation supplies. I arranged Baba room after cleaning, put Baba?s photograph, Master?s photograph, Ammagaru?s photograph, and Chaitanya Swamy?s photograph very neatly. I picked out the flowers to put on those photographs. I felt that it is indeed like Sai Baba of Shirdi temple. I felt very happy to arrange like this very respectfully and whole heartedly to work on this. Then I did put an asana and started meditation. At first, I lighted lamps and put on scent stick. Then I followed the instructions exactly what you told. I focussed on Sai Baba photograph and Ammagaru and Mastergaru?s photographs, then Swamy. I started to feel the real to touch of their holy feet. I respectfully prayed to them, that this meditation should be successful with your help. Then started imagining, holy feet of Ammagaru who came to my house, then went on?.till the end of pooja. I started thinking about what inspires me, with Baba?s words and his teachings like ?Sai Sai? then I looked his photograph again. I kept Master?s shawl in my lap and as soon as touched it I felt like some power (it is spiral- like) working to back to forth in my back bone of the body to my head. With my eyes closed, I found some energy moving around and around. After that, I opened my eyes slowly, I attained peace and calm. I found same peace which I have experienced when I shaved my head. It was so empty in my mind and very calm and peaceful. I did meditation for more than 15 minutes. Sure is, I almost forgot how much time I have spent.

Friday September 8

Second day of meditation, it went okay, but I was in a hurry to go to work. I did same as yesterday. New step, watch your thoughts which I didn?t get it. When I watched my thoughts, those thoughts were ?uh oh, time is up, I am going to be late? then I stopped. I felt that I can?t do this (to watch my thoughts) because sometimes watching those thoughts is not letting them to come out. I felt that as blocking my thoughts. I was too embarrassed in front of Baba, to see terrible or bad thoughts!

Saturday September 9

Today, I did meditation better than yesterday. I started thinking about what inspires me what Baba?s words and his teachings like
?Sai Sai? and what inspires me more is ?Look to me, I will look to you?. It made me feel more real and felt very blissful. Same peace and calm from Thursday. For new step, I started watching my thoughts, it became better, at first I watched my thoughts, there?s nothing, it is empty for few seconds then one thought came then nothing then another one came. I observed 11 thoughts or less. I felt that watching my thoughts is like a police watching the thieves. As I watched my thoughts, those thoughts don?t come out more because these thoughts know that I?m watching. I got some knowledge about watching. By not watching the thoughts, they come out without control, like if police doesn?t watch thieves, thieves would do more stealing without control. By watching thoughts, thoughts would know and they will stop. Also, for the most of time, I keep forget to watch thoughts all the day, then thoughts come out. When I work, I forget to watch and they come out. I understood that by doing meditation helps to form new habits and apply new control over the mind and body. I should say and feel how Baba?s plans are very great. So, after meditation, I prayed to Baba that I want to develop more in meditation, the answer from Baba is ?My order is don?t watch television, and you?ll get development?. I pray to Ammagaru to give me strong will and determination.

Jai Sai Master!

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2007, 11:37:21 PM »
Jai Sai Master
Babugaru namasthe. "Naaku Adhyatmikamaina abhivrudhi anugrahinchamani" korutoo naa sahaja gunamaina Swardha budhini prakatinchukonnanu. Dayatho naa tappuki nannu kshaminchi Online Meditation lo participate chestunna maa andarikee Adhyatmika Abhivrudhi anugrahinchamani Satchidananda Sadguru Sainatha Samrat ni, Datta Sai Swarupulaina Alivelu Mangamma sahitha PujyaSri Bharadwaja Gurudevulanee, Satchidananda Sadguru Sri Sreeramachandra Chaitanya Swamy nee, mimmulanoo prardhistunnanu.

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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2007, 11:37:43 PM »
baabu garu,

I would also like to enroll for the meditation.

Thank you,
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2007, 11:38:00 PM »
jai sai master!!!


Please make me a part of this online meditation.


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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2007, 11:38:29 PM »
Jai Sai Master!



Our meditation right now is all about this :

1. We should pray that Baba is within us and without us.
2. Let the mind go freely. Dont think of anything conciously. At the same time dont stop the mind from thinking with any effort from your side.
3. While getting thoughts, just as soon as you discover that a thought is coming, simply right it down. What this does is that it will cut that thought and it will concentrate on writing. Write as neatly as you can. This will stop the thought automatically.
4. Once you finish writing the first thought in a few words, your mind will stop thinking that. So after you finish the writing, you would observe the mind searching for new thoughts. Once a new thought comes, just write it down. What ever thought it is. Need not be spiritual thoughts or anything. The point of this meditation is to notice the mind. Thats all. No need to think of anything conciously. Just keep observing and wait for thoughts to pop up and simply write them down. We are not writing a journal of your thoughts. The purpose of writing is to cut the thought by keeping mind on writing neatly. thats all.
If you keep doing this, you will notice that the mind will not churn up new thoughts as fast as it used to. You will also notice the pattern in which thoughts arize.
With the help of this, we will be able to notice bad thoughts and their patterns and cut them before they actually occur. For example, for many, the thought of watching TV is the starter which leads into thinking about watching violence or suspence or girls. IF one observes this process, one can immediately stop it right at the thought of watchign TV. This cutting of thought keeps reminding us of Master. Also we will notice how mind reminds us of important things to get us out of meditation and then when it is actually allowed to the important thing, it will take us to the wild ride. For example, when we sit to meditate or do parayana, mind might say.. hey you have to go get your groceries before the market closes or that you should remember to buy paper clips before going to office tomorrow or you should do you homework or what ever. But once you get up from meditation and go to get those things, it will say.. well.. lets see TV for five minutes and then get those things.
You will observe what your mind tells you to get you distracted. With this knowledge, two things will improve.
1. You will learn how your mind distracts you.
2. You will learn how to remember your important things and tell your mind what it should do rather than it telling you what to do.

This is our excersize. Dont try to think of observing with any effort. As Master wrote, meditation should be done in a relaxed way. not forced way. meditation is our natural state. Our mind keeps pulling us back out of it into this illusory and transient world. What we are trying now is to understand how mind works. Dont try to observe severely. Just relax and keep watchign as if you are sitting on the beach on a holiday contemplating your childhood memories. As simple as that. Just keep waiting for thoughts to pop up and then write them down!

I suggest keeping "experiences" private and to write any problems encountered during meditation for discussion as it will serve two purposes.

1. People who didnt get those experiences or dreams might feel jealous.
2. They are not useful to anyone else other than you at this stage.
3. Writing problems might let other people have answers. You will be surprized as to how the problems of every one are similar. Most of the time, problems during meditation between different individuals are exactly the same, at least in the beginning, because we all are brought up on similar thinking patterns, all of them based on this false and illusory world.




Chinmayi Garu,

You said that when you try to concentrate on observing the thing that is seeing thoughts, you cant breathe properly. The above written stuff should give you the answer. Dont try to concentrate on anything. Just sit there waiting for thoughts. wether they are thougths about money, office, work, sleep, food.. what ever.. just write them down. If they are about Master, then just keep seeing how you think about Master and live in that thought. If its not about Master, write it down very neatly.

Siddhu,

Your meditation is going well. Keep doing. Make sure you dont sit for meditation while you are short on time.. like going to work or something. Be relaxed for your meditation. when you find that spiral sensation, write it down like any other thought. dont give it any special thought or observation. Just write it down as any other thought.


Ananth,
I liked what you wrote in your previous posts. Keep discussing meditation and your thoughts on it in general and also any problems you encounter. But keep your thoughts(and experiences) private. By putting them online will not remove them from you. The Master who should know that you have them knows it. He will take them out.

Solutions to common problems:
1. When ever any feeling or thought comes, write them down. If they continue after finishing writing, tell yourself that even that thought itself is Sai and rever it like you would rever Sri Sai. What ever that thought is, the images, the memories, the feelings, bodily sensations.. everything is Sai.
2. If you feel like scratching, it only shows how steadfastly your mind keeps you from meditating. Haha.. it doesnt complain about them during work at office or during play or watching movie or reading a novel. Many times, when we do the things that we like, we completely forget the body. Thats what enjoyment actually is. we will usually find that our leg is tingling or that we sat in a same pose for too long AFTER we stop doing that interesting thing. The fact that we notice them now can be broken down into two problems..
a) we are too conscious of the fact that we are meditating. if it is this, then in a few days, they will stop. Just like we feel everything before getting up on to the stage when we are nervous.. our mind telling us how we look, how our mouth looks our hairstyle looks and so on.. so it is doing the same thing during our meditation. Its not used to it, and so is very concious and is observing whats happening to the body. Keep doing meditation and in a few days, it will stop bothering you.
b) We will feel scratches because we are trying to make the mind work hard. Trying to concentrate or trying to remember Master or what ever. ITs not used to it. Observe this. If you are walking a long distance and you really find it hard, then you will observe your legs aching or other things. but even if you walk twice the distance with a friend as a company, you will not feel a thing. So whats happening with your meditation is that you are trying too hard. Just let it be relaxing. Just sit there waiting for thougths to pop up. then write them down neatly in two or three words. Thats all.



Jai Sai Master!




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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2007, 11:38:50 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

Sreelakshmi and Sai, your names have been told to Amma and asked for blessings for meditation.

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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2007, 11:39:09 PM »
Jai Sai Master
Babugaru namasthe. ninna exact gaa meeru cheppina vidhangaane naa thoughts oberserve chestoo, ventane rastoo unte meditation ayye lopu chala koddi sepu naa mind silent gaa undi. inthavaraku, nenu konni samyaalalo maatrame, ante puja, paarayana samayalalo matrame, okkosaari panulu chesukonetappudu vacche thoughts nenu gamanistoo undedanni kaanee, alaa nenu gamaninchagaane avi stop aipoyevi. kaanee eppudoo edo alochistoo unnattu gaa undi chirakugaa undedi.(avasaramu unna lekapoyina eppudu kadulutoo unde padaardhamu ani manasu gurinchi Sri Mastergaru cheppinadi gurthu vastondi Babugaru) kaanee ninnati ee procedure chala clear gaa undi. Meeku naa hrudaya poorvaka krutajnathalu.

Satchidananda Sadguru Sainath Maharaj ki, Satchidananda Sadguru Sri Alivelumangamma Sahitha Bharadwaja Maharaj ki, Satchidananda Sadguru Sri Sreeramachandra Chaitanya Swamy ki namaskaaramulu.

Jai Sai Master
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