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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 02:08:49 AM »
Hi sristi , how are you? I appreciate your help. please tell me how it works?

                                                good luck. sowjanya.

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 02:43:13 AM »
Sowjanya Auntie,

Your question was, "How can I remember Baba while doing things that need lots of concentration??"

Well, Baba told his devotees that he is everywhere, in everyone, and in everything. So what you can do is, before you start the job think in your mind that you're working with Baba. For E.X. If you are working in your office think "There is Baba in the computer that I'm working with, there is Baba in the desk I'm sitting at, there is Baba in the chair that I'm sitting on, there is Baba in the person I'm talking to, there is Baba in me, Etc."

If you're teaching your child think that, "There is Baba in the child that I'm teaching, there is Baba in the Book that I'm using to teach the child, there is Baba in me, etc. "

If you are studying a book just think that there is Baba in the Book that you're studying out of and that there is Baba in you.

When you're about to sleep just think "I will sleep today to give the Baba in me rest."

Try to keep on reminding yourself that Baba is everything and that you are working with Baba every millisecond. With some practice you might be able to Remember Baba without even trying to :).
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 09:38:32 AM by Srusti.M »
"We should not bother about a wish that Baba did not fulfill because we should believe that he did it for our own good. We need strong faith in Baba to believe that he does things for our own good."

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 08:40:37 AM »
Jai Sai Master,

Dearest Srushti,

cutest answer just like you .

Kalpana

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 10:35:58 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Srusti I was about to send a similar reply.Just fantastic.

Sowjanya garu,

If you see Sainatha Pooja book in that Master garu says the same in
Udaya prarthana

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/sainathapooja/pages1.html

especially - నా జీవితానుభవములన్నింటిని  నీ ప్రసాదములుగ గుర్తింతును గాక.

Also you can read Baba Chitrapatam article by VEdamma garu in Saibaba
magazine May and June issues of this year

Jai Sai Master!
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 01:45:21 PM by swayam »
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2009, 09:02:36 PM »
OM SRI SAIRAM !

Srusti
Good answer. Always see baba in everywhere and in each person.
Sowjanya garu,
To achieve such a understanding it needs lot of practice. in the same contest master gave the example also.
Manam enta pooja chesinaa, evarina pillavadu godava chestee vadini tittatamoo ledaa illu narkam anukovatamoo jarugutundi alaantappudu  manam evarinaitee bhagavantudo anukunnamoo adee narakam la kanipistundi.
ee vidhamaina paristiti maraali antee Mana drushti maarali ani chepparu.

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If try to do I will lose concentration on the first thing.
If I am sweeping my house may be i can do it because it doesnt need much attention.

master cheppina drushti maratam anedi ikkadinunche modalu avvali ani naa abhiprayam. 
Sweeping the house needs more attention than any other thing in our life, if you just sweep without attention, it leads to many problems in your daily life.
If we are deciding that which one needs attention and which does not need attention, then our mind always says no need of attention for BABA. You can  make the attention whenever we need him.(Like any difficult situations,where we wont get any help from all our resources except the supreme).

"Pay attention on every work"  feel that BABA is watching you with how much concentration you are doing that.

so how to practice such attention? the question we need to ask for our self is when we are  remembering god? when we are praying him with more concentration ?
The answer for me is when i am in difficult situation, but when i feel i am happy i may pray Baba, but it is just a daily routine or asking for luxuries.
The link pointed by swayam garu discuss this thing, then we will be able to see BABA in everywhere.

OM SRI SAIRAM !
!!!Sarve janaa Sukinoo bhavantu!!!!
!!!Samasta sanmagalani bhavantu!!!

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 12:40:52 AM »
jai sai master ,  Thanks srusti and all sai devotees for th explanation. But I feel I need more and different answer.

Before doing a thing I  can think BABA is in there and start the work.

For example as srusti said "  when I have to read a book think that baba is in the book  and the baba in me reading the book"

so how this act supports BABA's teaching " every minute remember me ".
 :-X

I think I have to understand BABA's above statement  like this
" while reading a book i have to keep saying BABA on one hand and reading the book on other hand"
so my mind will be doing 2 things at the same time.  jai sai master


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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 03:55:11 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Sowjanyagaru, excellent question. Srusti, excellent answer!

Sowjanyagaru : It comes with practice. Master gave the example of a cyclist. When learning to ride the cycle, it is difficult to ride the cycle and speak at the same time. One has to concentrate on cycling or speaking, but has to stop the other. But as we become better in cycling, we can do both at the same time! So, "Abhyasenatu Kaunteya" as Gita says, its practice.

Excellent answers to this are given in Dhyana Yoga Sarvaswam and also in Pravachanaalu Nistha and Saboori and Pooja chapters and also in Buddha Dhyana Hridayam.

Also, these following help :
1. addressing everyone by first mentioning God's name. Say, "Jai Sai Master". We at our house wish everyone "Jai Sai Master" as soon as we see them, and particularly when starting conversations. Also, thats the first thing we say to anyone in the morning.
2. setting up posters with inspiring sooktis around.

Also, some discussion on this point and other things that help us achieve it are discussed in the 'online meditation' thread. Can some one post the link?

Srusti :
If we are trying to see God in everything, and lets say, in the child that we are trying to teach, then the question comes  : "How can I teach Baba"? or if I see Baba in shoes, the question comes "How can I wear those shoes? How can I trample on Baba?"
What to do then? Think and reply.


Jai Sai Master!!

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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2009, 12:01:06 AM »
Jai sai master, BAbu garu ,
            I kind of understood little bit but still i have few questions  about it.

 you said it comes with practice. so how exactly we should start the practice and at what age we shouls start practicing it?

can I teach it to my 5 yr kid?

As with learning cycle example If when ever I have to learn a new thing  again the same procedure will followed . like I have to learn a new software  so Initially I will be more focussed on learning the software and after i become master over the subject I can do sai smaran and software job simultaneously.

and I beleive whole life I will be learning something or the other thing and learning can never end till my last breath.

If that is the case when can I acheive BABA's  teaching " think of me every minute".

I hope I could make my doubt clear to you .   jai sai master.

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2009, 12:04:39 AM »
Jai Sai Master !

I completely forgot that today is SUNDAY ! Remember that we were supposed to read the first chap by today and discuss !!!

Should we call off this session ? This has perhaps been the poorest response to any "combined reading" :(

Jai Sai Master !

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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2009, 03:22:51 AM »
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If we are trying to see God in everything, and lets say, in the child that we are trying to teach, then the question comes  : "How can I teach Baba"?


Dwarak annaya,

We are serving the Baba in the kid by teaching him. Since we are helping the kid, we are helping Baba.

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or if I see Baba in shoes, the question comes "How can I wear those shoes? How can I trample on Baba?"
What to do then? Think and reply.

We can think that we need to wear Baba (Shoes) to give protection to the Baba in us so we don't hurt ourselves by stepping on sharp rocks.......   We aren't trampling on Baba but we are using baba as Protection for our feet. Everything we see is Baba, like the Earth, Water, Air, etc. but we're still walking, running, on the Earth. We use water for everything, for cleaning, drinking, cooking, watering the plants and etc. Baba is in everything but we aren't supposed to stop using things even though Baba's in them. What we are supposed to do things and always remember Baba. This is my opinion.

Here are my questions: Actually I got these questions long time ago, but i waited until you have finished the First Chapter.

1.What is the difference between God and Guru?

2.What does Sadguru mean and who is Sadguru??

3.If Some body is a Guru, and if they cross the limit(on the scale) will they become a Sadguru??

4.What is Dakshina??

5.Does dakshina vary by the Guru?

6.Is Dakshina a specific thing?

7.Why should a pupil/student/disciple give Dakshina  to his/her Guru?

8.The guru teaches his pupil everything he knows on his own will, then why should the Guru ask/get for a reward(Dakshina).

10.So Is Dakshina  something that we give (or)  something that ask for??

11.Is Baba a Guru or a Sadguru or God?

12.If he is a God how come he begs for his food. He wore ripped cloths, lived in Mashid etc...when the other Gods have Crowns and Ornaments, silk cloths to wore, and Palaces to live, and chefs to cook his food etc...

13.Why is Baba so different from other Gods.

14.Krishna and Balarama came in incognito to the earth.Since other ordinary boys/girls have guru, they had one too. Because they have to go with the flow. But why do we need a Guru? Because we got wiser through Guru. We got half of our wisdom from guru/teaching/school, and half from experience. But for people that can't go to school, they get wiser only through experience?? If not how do they get wiser??

P.S. I finished the First Chapter Yesterday.
"We should not bother about a wish that Baba did not fulfill because we should believe that he did it for our own good. We need strong faith in Baba to believe that he does things for our own good."

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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2009, 03:58:13 AM »
Jai Sai Master
Dearest Srusti,
I am very amazed of your answer to Babugari question.

I read the first chapter in Pravachanalu but your questions made me think again  and again. I felt that my way of reading is not correct.

thanks for joining in this discussions. I need to improve my thinking on what I am reading.I thought this when I read  your questions.

I am thinking you are 8 years old is that correct? :)

Jai Sai Master

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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2009, 08:47:52 AM »
Jai Sai Master !

Dear Srusti,

Wonderful ! This gives all of us a purpose to read that chapter. Its really nice to have you here in this combined reading !

Jai Sai Master !

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2009, 01:28:25 PM »
జై సాయి మాస్టార్

బాబా విస్వమంతా అన్ని జీవులలో తానే ఉన్నానని,అంతా ఆయన రూపమేనని అన్నారు. ఐతే

1. మంచి వారిలోను చడ్డవారిలోను కూడా బాబా ఉండాలి కదా లేదా సందర్భం బట్టి మారుతుందా ? లేదా చెడును కూడా మనం మంచిగా తీసుకోవాలా? ఉదాహరణకి మనకి హాని కలిగించే చెడ్డవారు ఎదురైతే మన భావం ఎలా ఉండాలి?
2. ఆ చెడ్డవారిలో బాబా లేరా? 

3. అన్ని జీవులలో బాబా ఉన్నారుకదా మనకు హాని కలిగించని జీవులలో బాబాని చూడగలము అదే హాని కలిగించే జీవులలో  practical గా మనం బాబాని చూడలేము. అది వేరు అనుకోవడం వల్లనే కావచ్చు (పాకలపాటి గురువుగారు చెప్పినట్లు) కానీ మనలాంటి సామాన్యులకి అది సధ్యపడదు కదా? దీని బట్టీ బాబా చెప్పిన ముఖ్యమైన సూత్రాన్ని పాటించలేకపోవడం జరుగుతుంది.

4. నాపై చెడుగా మాట్లాడెవారిలో బాబాని చూడలేక పోతున్నాను వారిని ఏమీ అనకపోయినా మనసులో బాధపడతాను దానిని ఆనందంగా accept చెయ్యడం ఎలా?

జై సాయి మాస్టార్                         

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2009, 05:15:10 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

Priya garu,

Master garu has explained about this aspect in chapter 6 'Saboori'. Also Master garu explained about 'Runanubhandam' in these circumstances. Master garu starts with our basic limitations in the first chapter and continues explaining about how we can achieve to see Baba in all in future chapters. It gets more and more interesting.

Let us wait till chapter 6th comes.

Jai Sai Master.
Jai Sai Master.

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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2009, 12:01:29 AM »
Jai Sai Master.

Dear Srusti,

>2.What does Sadguru mean and who is Sadguru??

Sath means Good or True. Guru means

Master garu explained in Upadeshamulu-1 in Sai Leelamrutam. 'Gu' means Darkness of Agnanam. 'Ru' means one who removes the darkness.

We can see like SathPravartana. Pravartana(behavior) is there and it becomes SathPravartana if the pravartana is good. Opposite to this DushPravartana.
 
Another one SathSeelamu(Moral character). Sath + Seelamu. Opposite to it is Dushseelamu.

SathGuru is a True Guru. We have been taking Guru and SathGuru as synonyms so far. It appears Sathguru word is used for a complete and true Guru.

If you want to learn more about the characteristics of a SathGuru. Try listening to this chapter from your mother:

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?PNo=SL0046

Master garu mentions these words:

Srotriyudu
BrahmaNishtudu

We dont remember the meaning of these terms. Sai Bandhus, please share the meaning.

>11.Is Baba a Guru or a Sadguru or God?

Baba is Guru. Baba is SathGuru. Baba is also God because

Baba proved on many occasions that He appeared as Guru, SathGuru, God to many devotees.

If you want to learn more about how Baba is Guru/SathGuru, try listening to this chapter:

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?Pno=SL0034

How Baba is Samartha SathGuruvu ?

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?Pno=SL0095

If you want to learn more about how Baba is God, try listening to this chapter:
http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?Pno=SL0031

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>4.What is Dakshina??

5.Does dakshina vary by the Guru?

6.Is Dakshina a specific thing?

7.Why should a pupil/student/disciple give Dakshina  to his/her Guru?

8.The guru teaches his pupil everything he knows on his own will, then why should the Guru ask/get for a reward(Dakshina).

10.So Is Dakshina  something that we give (or)  something that ask for??

Master garu explained about Dakshina in the chapter 7 'Dakshina'. Shall we wait till this chapter comes?

Jai Sai Master.
Jai Sai Master.