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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2008, 08:03:45 AM »


Mahatmas are scientists and God/Supreme is the best Doctor. But I think unlike mahatmas and Supreme, Scientists and Doctors have some limitations. Right Uncle ??

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That's the Truth. Scientists depend on experiments to get some "knowledge" which is of limited use. No where close to the knowledge imparted by Mahatma. Mahatma's teachings have eternal value. They are Sastras or Scriptures.


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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 09:10:20 PM »
Dear Swarup Uncle,

I answered your questions. Please let me know if they are right or wrong??


Dear Dwaraka Uncle,

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Also, start thinking about things that are helpful to human kind. Not just about 'things', but also about one's self, one's thoughts and behaviour, why it is so, how it should be, what are the problems that people are facing, how can we solve them, etc. Think carefully, for example, why we get 'angry' and what are its bad effects. Why do we get angry?? What is the basic reason behind it? What kind of reasons are valid and what kind of reasons for anger are stupid? Can we justify our anger? How can we remove the weakness of getting angry?


Great! I'll think about it Uncle.


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Think about this srusti. "Sun rizes in the east and sun sets it the west." is some thing we learn. Next we learn "Sun never rises nor sets, only earth rotates.. " Both are true, but one is fundamentally more true than the other. Thats the way we are taught.
And yes, its not hundred percent accurate at all. Almost nothing is. But that doesnt stop us from using that information to improve our lives!! So, learn it, but learn to question it so that we can get more and more fundamental truths!


Very nice exanple to what Swarup Uncle said! Uncle I think that when we didn't know that the Earth rotates around the Sun we thought that the Sun really moves and I think that how the words the Sun is rising and the Sun is setting came. And later scientists discovered that the Sun is not really moving but we are. But actully the Earth rotates from East to West so we see the Sun first in the East side, and for some planets it's West to East. When we didn't have North, East, South, and West, how come we are following certain rules for our houses ?? When the Earth rotates with certain speed why can't we feel it ?? Even thought we are still we are still moving ?? Right ?? That to we don't get motion sickness. And while we are traveling in a flight or car, we get tired and sometimes get motion sickness. Does gravity also playing a role here ??
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 09:24:03 PM »
When the Earth rotates with certain speed why can't we feel it ?? Even thought we are still we are still moving ?? Right ?? That to we don't get motion sickness. And while we are traveling in a flight or car, we get tired and sometimes get motion sickness. Does gravity also playing a role here ??

Dear Srusti, for motion sickness part,  think about what is movement? and what is moving to get motion sickness?

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 12:39:49 AM »
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Dear Srusti, for motion sickness part, think about what is movement? and what is moving to get motion sickness?



Ohhhh!  :o That was hard uncle.

Movement is the main characteric of Animals. :)

Assume, I was standing in the hall, I go southwest to Baba's room. That is the change of Direction and place.

So Movement means change in direction and place.

what is moving to get motion sickness.

Our body or stomach??  :-\  I don't know Uncle. Tell me.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2008, 05:45:42 AM »
mmm... For a while let us leave motion sickness, its a bit of too medical to know.

But lets think, about movement. Not just animals, You said earth is moving.. rite?! Why do you say its moving?? If so are you comparing with something?

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 10:24:17 PM »
Swarup Uncle,

Uncle I was wrong about Motion Sickness. I recollected what my Science teacher taught me about Dizziness. When we spin around in a circle, the fluids in our inner ear spin too. For E.X. when we have a glass of water and we mix it with a spoon really fast, even though we take out the spoon we see that the water is still spinning. Then after some time it completely stops spinning. In the same manner, the fluids in our inner ear still spin even when we stop spinning.This causes dizziness.

 
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Why do you say its moving?? If so are you comparing with something?



The Earth is moving so we can get Day and Night. And we are comparing it with Sun which stands still.


 
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 10:39:54 PM »
Very good!! I didnot know a 9 yr old would know so much about motion sickness. Good job.

Regarding movement srusti, you are getting there. Now try a different question. Say you are traveling in a car with ur dad. Compare yourself with your dad... so are you moving compared with your dad?

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 11:30:27 PM »
Uncle,

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Regarding movement srusti, you are getting there. Now try a different question. Say you are traveling in a car with ur dad. Compare yourself with your dad... so are you moving compared with your dad?



When I'm traveling in a car with my Dad, yes I would move because when we have turns I move this way and that way and my dad wouldn't because he has a sturdy grip on the steering wheel.


When we went to Silver Dollar City we rode a gigantic swing.When we went extremely high up in the air we didn't feel anything, but when we were dropping, we felt like our stomachs dropped into our legs, what's the reason ??

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 07:30:21 PM »
Dear Srusti,

When we went to Silver Dollar City we rode a gigantic swing.When we went extremely high up in the air we didn't feel anything, but when we were dropping, we felt like our stomachs dropped into our legs, what's the reason ??

mmm... you gave the answer rite?! same inner ear thing. more than glass of water assume inner ear is a cylinder (closed on all sides) with water  in it.

BTW, do you know how carpenters used to test if a surface is straight (even) or not? well i dont know if its still used or not, they have a small mercury-air bubble instrument. inner ear will be more or less a similar model. Just in case you dont know, May be u should ask ur parents, as a kid i used to play with it.

Regarding the movement, assume you are on a smoth flat road. and both u and ur dad are pretty much still. even than will you be moving with respect to your dad? and will u be moving with respect to a pole? (or still object- just like sun and earth)

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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 11:17:40 PM »
Dear Swarup Uncle,

Yes Uncle, people are still using the scale thing with Mercury bubbles because we have it ! (Amma uses it for Home improvment projects) That's called "Carpenter's Level". I didn't know that those were Mercury bubbles, I used to shake it really hard to see if they would pop. ;D And I never knew that the scale was an example to this scientific question about inner ear fluid.

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Regarding the movement, assume you are on a smoth flat road. and both u and ur dad are pretty much still. even than will you be moving with respect to your dad? and will u be moving with respect to a pole? (or still object- just like sun and earth)



No uncle I wouldn't move when compared to my dad, but I see outside objects moving. For E.X. when I'm traveling with my family in a train, I would see that everyone is still along with me. But I see trees and mountains moving (running) outside. 

Uncle unlike other sense organs why do the ears act weird ;D when we get on rides ect. ?? I already know the answer, my mom taught me  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 12:24:51 AM »
Uncle unlike other sense organs why do the ears act weird ;D when we get on rides ect. ??

mmm.... "why" is probable a tough question and may be there is an answer but no one knows it. In fact I had several such doubts, why heart is at that particular location, why not in legs for examples, what prevents stomach being up and lungs in the abdomen, why human should be like that etc  ;D..... similarly why ears have that function .. don't know.... all we know (atleast untill know) is they have a special function and try to explain the mechanics  :)

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 01:48:41 AM »
Dear Swarup Uncle,

I had those kind of questions too.

1) Like, was the first human a man or a woman ??

2) How did the first tree come ??

3) Why God created Earth and Humans ??

4) Science says that Humans came from Monkeys but why didn't God/Supreme Power create Humans directly ??

5) How did Dinos get extict ??

6) Why fingerprints are unique ??

7) Why do our fingers have oil ??

8 Why is every DNA different ??

9) What is life ??

10) What is Happiness or Bliss ?? I know it's an emotion but what is it exactly ??

11) How does the Brain have memory ??
 
12) What was the first mammal ??

13) What was the first bird ??
 
14) What was the first fish??
 
I still have many more questions. ;D
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2008, 09:41:05 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Good questions Srusti!

I will try and look at one of those for now.. :D
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What is Happiness or Bliss ?? I know it's an emotion but what is it exactly ??

To answer this, we have to go a lil bit deeper.

When do we get happiness? When not? Can you give 5 examples of when we get and when we dont??
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When we didn't have North, East, South, and West, how come we are following certain rules for our houses ?? When the Earth rotates with certain speed why can't we feel it ?? Even thought we are still we are still moving ?? Right ?? That to we don't get motion sickness. And while we are traveling in a flight or car, we get tired and sometimes get motion sickness. Does gravity also playing a role here ??

Dont we have north, east, south and west?

We certainly do! We can SEE that. Only by using such directions can the world work! Otherwise, even airplanes cant work!! Only when we think deeper, do we get to the truth that they dont exist absolutely. Only in our sensory experience do they exist. But in our sensory experience, they are as REAL as the next person standing to you!!

This is what Master used as an example to explain a very important principle. THERE ARE LEVELS OF TRUTH. Sensory level, and then logically different levels. All these truths are valid based on what level we are talking about. For example, if we talk of what we SEE, directions are TRUE. When we talk of EARTH impersonally (that is not as we see it, but as an object in our thinking), seems like directions are not there!

Similarly, there are several levels of truth. All levels are true at their own level!!

The deeper one thinks, the greater level of truth one understands. Thats all.

Hope i didnt confuse you. If I did, do read the second chapter of "edinijam" and you will get a clearer picture.

Jai Sai Master!!

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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2008, 08:15:47 PM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..

Swarup garu, Jai Sai Master!

I really appreciate your answers and your explanations for the budding minds.

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Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Master!
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2008, 11:20:18 AM »
Dear Dwaraka Uncle,

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When do we get happiness? When not? Can you give 5 examples of when we get and when we dont??


5 examples for happiness :

1) If I get a birthday present that I wanted I would get happy.
2) If I get a reply to 1 of my questions on the Forum ( especially from you.)( Dwaraka Uncle. :D)
3) When I see that birds ( Baba) is eating food. We put up a bird feeder and a hummingbird feeder, I have been told that if everyday we say Baba please come and eat the food that he will really come.(he does because he is in every bird that is coming to eat.)

4) If I get to play with my friends.
5) When I watch the rain falling. ( which is happening right now)


5 examples for opposite of happiness :

1) When I don't get a birthday present that I was expecting.
2) When I didn't get a reply to 1 of my questions.
I was told that don't expect replies for my every message.

3) When the Baba birds didn't come to eat because it was so hot that they stayed in the trees.
4) When I have so much homework to do I couldn't go out to play.
5) When the rain upsets one of our programs.

I asked what happiness is because Dwaraka Uncle said, we only get real happiness in spirituality. And in Matam Enduku? book master garu explained that everything we feel with sense organs and mind is an illusion,and they won't give real happiness,  just like a dream in deep sleep. Then this entire universe is an illusion, so where and what is the real world ??



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Dont we have north, east, south and west?

We certainly do! We can SEE that. Only by using such directions can the world work! Otherwise, even airplanes cant work!! Only when we think deeper, do we get to the truth that they dont exist absolutely. Only in our sensory experience do they exist. But in our sensory experience, they are as REAL as the next person standing to you!!


I'm totally convinced Uncle. Just like we can see god and we can't see god.
"We should not bother about a wish that Baba did not fulfill because we should believe that he did it for our own good. We need strong faith in Baba to believe that he does things for our own good."