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Why this happens
« on: February 02, 2014, 10:58:42 PM »
Sai Ram
I usually watch the preachings (pravachanalu) of scholors in Bhakti and other TVs. I have been seeing many well known orators and people who come in these channels do not mention Sai Baba name while they mention about Mahatmas, or avataras. Why is this so?
If we see Sai Baba life history we get more and more reasons to keep our faith in Him. If anything Sai Baba method makes us follow our Vedas and Sanathana Dharma.
Dwarakanath garu, Had Master Garu ever faced such issue in people showing resistence in accepting Sai Baba teaching? Did Master Garu faced any difficulties in this regard.
Sometimes I feel while listening to discourses that Sai Baba name gets exluced intentionally? Why is this so. Yet no one dares openly to challenge Sai Baba teachings because Baba had always been very transperant unlike some of the modern age sages. But I see people praising some of these modern age saints but not the real modern age saint Sai Baba. Why is this so?
When Baba path is so simple, promotes harmony what difficulty people have in accepting it
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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 04:47:16 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

Dileep garu,

One of Master gari speeches explains how few scholars did not show interest. Speech where Master garu asks questions How Sri Rama has become dharmatma when he did not obey his father Dasharatha's request of staying back in Ayodhya.

On TV, focus of pravachanas may be different and few might not have read about Baba completely. Even a young boy or girl can understand about Baba when they read Master gari Books. These young people will become better persons of telling about Baba in our honest opinion without much confusion.

Jai Sai Master.

  
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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 12:39:50 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

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On TV, focus of pravachanas may be different and few might not have read about Baba completely. Even a young boy or girl can understand about Baba when they read Master gari Books. These young people will become better persons of telling about Baba in our honest opinion without much confusion.

Excellent, excellent. I second this....In this world full of morons, every channel has their own guru and they are trying to do something on their own accord....what are we doing?....nothing but restricting ourselves as secret admirers of Master and Baba. Can we do any thing...are we ready? Why dont we publish a quote of Master in leading newspapers on a regular basis, and give some eloquent public speeches on TV channels...I think we have enough eloquent and skilled public speakers, who imbibed Master's master ideas on true spirituality based on their maturity?  I think it should be done as a team effort.

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Sometimes I feel while listening to discourses that Sai Baba name gets exluced intentionally? Why is this so. Yet no one dares openly to challenge Sai Baba teachings because Baba had always been very transperant unlike some of the modern age sages. But I see people praising some of these modern age saints but not the real modern age saint Sai Baba. Why is this so?
When Baba path is so simple, promotes harmony what difficulty people have in accepting it

Master clearly explained why is so  and what should be done etc...in his literature. 8)

Jai Sai Master!
"The life of Saibaba is as wide and as deep as the infinite ocean;all can dive deep into it and take out precious gems of knowledge and devotion and cherish them to transform their lives." --- Sri Sai Satcharitra

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 06:40:45 AM »
Jai Sai Master.

Our Parents listen to many of the Pravachanas on TV. Most of the times, they are about devotion or gaining peace or valuable practices from Puranas or simply something good. Still it is all new to the listener.

Completely agree with Dileep garu. They all make more valuable when Baba's teachings are understood.

Baba's teachings tap the roots of everything. No where we can learn about  the truest meaning in such simple examples, leelas that happened in the presence of Baba through the devotees.

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http://www.saibharadwaja.org/books/saileelamruthamu/saileelamruthamu.aspx?page=47

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what are we doing?....nothing but restricting ourselves as secret admirers of Master and Baba. Can we do any thing...are we ready? Why dont we publish a quote of Master in leading newspapers on a regular basis, and give some eloquent public speeches on TV channels...I think we have enough eloquent and skilled public speakers, who imbibed Master's master ideas on true spirituality based on their maturity?  I think it should be done as a team effort.

Dear sister, what Master garu practiced becomes a good guidance to us to share about Baba's teachings. Availability of Paarayana Books, Satsangs in every community are the best what we understand. More than speeches, sharing through Satsangs by involving everyone while listening and learning gives better result in our honest opinion. Starting point for Satsang happens inside our own homes.

Your thoughts of publishing Master gari quote in news papers is good.

Four Books mentioned by Master garu gives clarity about what Baba taught.

http://www.saibharadwaja.org/books/readbook.aspx?book=Sri-Sai-Sannidhi&intropage=vi

When we look around, most of our brothers and sisters start and ends with Baba leelas which is again shared through many Pravachanas by many scholars. Unless until we understand many Mahatmas life histories, our minds remain in very narrow perspective. We mentioned about young people because Master gari Books have to be understood at an young age and learn by practice for the rest of the life. As elders, we most of the time retire towards devotion rather than exploring the truth beyond the text.

Jai Sai Master.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 06:58:33 AM by Saiuttampallavi »
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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 02:45:38 AM »
JAI SAI MASTER,

I would only suggest one thing in the short time I got to respond. It would be ideal in my opinion to pray Mastergaru before learning about spirituality from any of the sources other than the sources from our website. That's how we will not fall pray to false teachings.

JAI SAI MASTER......



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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 10:33:58 AM »
Jai Sai Master...

Response contd...

Also in one of the speeches. Mastergaru says a Mahatma warns him "if Mastergaru writes the truth he will be cursed and scolded by many people". This might explain your doubt dear Dilipgaru.

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 10:00:52 AM »
I have a thought about this from long time.
I want to go to the pravachanam king and present  all the mastergari books.
Sri guru charitra written by our master garu is my life. I love that book and have been doing that prayana from past 22 years. I was so curious and statred listening the pravachanam about sri guru charitra by that pravachanam king.
I felt so upset . I felt like breaking the doors.  That day i decided one day i will go to him and give all my master's  books. If people don't like baba that is fine need not give pravachanams.

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2014, 08:57:30 AM »
Jai SaiMaster

------ snippet from Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa-------------------------

DEVOTEE: "Can the 'ripe I' form an organization?"  

MASTER: "I said to Keshab Sen that the 'I' that says, 'I am a leader, I have formed this party, I am teaching people', is the 'unripe I'. It is very difficult to preach religion. It is not possible to do so without receiving the commandment of God. The permission of God is necessary. Sukadeva had a command from God to recite the Bhagavata. If, after realizing God, a man gets His command and becomes a preacher or teacher, then that
preaching or teaching does no harm. His 'I' is not 'unripe'; it is 'ripe'.

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Such Mahatmas need not even preach I guess, their mere glance will cast a spiritual spell  as Mastergaru mentions anecdotes from Kaparde's dairy in Sai Leelamrutam and volumes have been written about Ramana Maharshi's glance

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« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 08:59:48 AM by Swayam »
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2014, 04:21:10 PM »
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...and volumes have been written about Ramana Maharshi's glance

I was able to visit Arunachalam last month. Thanks for the information you provided to me sometime back Swayam garu. It helped.

jai saimaster!

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 12:05:03 PM »
Jai SaiMaster

Since I didnt get any reply to my email, I was wondering i have sent it to wrong id !
Most welcome Raghu garu. Jai SaiMaster

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గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: Why this happens
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 11:20:53 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

There are many great Mahatmas. And we do not know about them.

For instance, how many of us, in our daily lives or even speeches, speak or hear the name of RamSuratKumar Yogi?

So, similarly, those people do not know/understand Baba or His greatness. Thats why they do not mention it. There are a few who, while knowing about Baba do not tell about Him in fear of loosing their own devotees. Those are of a different category all together.

Jai Sai Master!!