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Dwarakanath

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 09:24:13 AM »
Jai Sai Master!!

Boy oh boy! Do I sound arrogant or what!! :D

Just watched my video myself.   :-\

I didnt mean to be arrogant or anything like that. Infact, im a bit nervous. Usually I dont ask for opinions when im sure. I am not too sure. Thats why im asking, and so, i cannot be arrogant. Please take the whole thing in the right spirit in which I meant it. I want your suggestions and help, since its not MY work, but MASTER'S WORK, and I dont want it to depend on one single person's whims and fancies.

Neways, couple of things I felt I should clarify :

when I said that "it would be run the way I want", what I really meant was that I would run it only based on ideas that I am convinced of. Not any one else's. However, it would be with the suggestions of everyone that we would decide upon what to do. And also, it means that I would take full responsiblity of what ever that magazine portrays. Thats what I meant. Cause, many things the telugu magazine portrays as of now, I myself cant understand fully. :p But doing it since its happening that way, until a better way is found to take care of such things. :)

Anyways, wonderful to hear all these ideas. When us humans work on something, its better that a lot of us put our heads together in thinking it out, unlike the case with Mahatmas. I welcome all your opinions whole heartedly and with equal respect to those of mine, while at the same time, I beg your pardon if I cannot put any of your suggestions into practise right away.

Please let me know.

The whole outlook of the magazine, the tag line, if I may, is that "Right thinking is necessary as Masters showed us, so that we may live Rightly." Thats what I see the magazine as giving to humanity at large. Honest thinking, leading to right living. I dont want to start and end at the mirage of 'blind belief'. That being said, please let me know what you guys think about it!!

Jai Sai Master!!

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 09:49:47 AM »

Jai Sai Master !

Here is what I think regarding teh magazine.

The magazine is intended for English speaking people (thats obvious). However, English speaking might not necessarily mean people from US or Canada or other English speaking nations. We have literally crores of people in India, with hardly any magazine talking to them about Sai Baba.

Mastergaru's articles are extremely thought provoking and revolutionalizing in themselves. We need not think that the English magazine has to branch out from Telugu speaking audience only, we can directly put them in front of English speaking people.

However, with a new magazine, we have a new chance. We have the option of carrying across Mastergaru's words (with the same force which existed when HE was personally writing articles for the magazine). We have the chance of putting the philosophy in its truest possible sense under the leadership of Babugaru.

I like when Babugaru says that He is not there to comfort us with the magazine. The magazine is not there to comfort us. It is there to change our perspective, either suddenly or slowly, but definitely.

Youth not only in US but even in India, usually dont want to commit to religions or topics such as spirituality. They might visit a temple or might be a devotee of some guru, but they have absolutely NO clue what religion is and what spirituality is. They have ( and I dont mean to say that I am better than them), no idea of correct values, correct response, etc.

In the same way, aged people dont know how to inspire the youth, they themselves being stuck in the rigmarole of 9:00-5:00 office and savements and pension.

And kids, well dont all of us want them to just shut up :)

This is the state of society. Kids unhappy, youth unhappy and aged unhappy. What this magazine can do is "impart and instill right thinking". This "impart and instill" can either be in form of life histories of saints, or scientific proof, or moral values or anything.

Its my personal opinion that "Right Thinking" is the need of the hour.

Also when some of our forum members say that there should be a section for kids, I am a bit confused. The kids will anyways come back to parents for understanding even those things that are there in their section. They would like to discuss what they have learnt. So is not a section on "how to parent" required than a section on kids !!!

I think a section on how to parent is of paramount importance, since kids imbibe things from parents unknowingly.

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 09:53:19 AM »
Jai Sai Master !


As posted by me
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Its my personal opinion that "Right Thinking" is the need of the hour.


As posted by Babugaru
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"Right thinking is necessary as Masters showed us, so that we may live Rightly."


Well not perfect, but still I deserve a round of applause :D

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 10:49:42 AM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..

Asterias garu, Jai Sai Master!!

Your last post is good. You touched just about everything that were running in my mind.

Thanks!

Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Swamy Sai!

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 06:38:29 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

Dear Asterias garu,

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Also when some of our forum members say that there should be a section for kids, I am a bit confused.

These are our thoughts behind our suggestion:

1. We have few sources about Baba other than Master gari Paarayana Books a. Saibaba Magazine in Telugu b. SaiMaster Newsletter and c. many News letters by various websites.

None of these are available to Kids in practical sense.

2. Few parents have asked us whether there are any Paarayana Books about Baba available for kids in English. We have only 'Saibaba The Master' in English which Parents find it difficult for kids to read.

Paarayana Books as such in Text format may not interest Kids for long time. But a Monthly Magazine with 1-2 pages might make them to eagerly wait for it and can easily spend time in reading. If they read Master gari Teachings consistently for few years this way, kids will be able to understand Master gari Teachings in their adulthood with the help of Paarayana Books in a better and efficient way.

3. In most of the communities because of Parents regular Paarayana, kids themselves are able to start their Childhood looking at Baba and listening to Sai Leelas. We have noticed this at many places.

Most of us start the day with Paarayana, we are just thinking it would be nice if kids also have Paarayana Books in an interesting and friendly way that can teach them the importance of Paarayana and SaiMaster's Teachings. We are very glad to know that Sai Leelamrutam for Kids is coming. This answers most of our prayers. Jai Sai Master.

4. Parents in most of the communities are trying to take their Children to places like Temples, Kids oriented activities to impart the right culture. We thought Magazine also can serve the same purpose.

What we noticed is Kids have free time even after dedicating significant time for playing and studying ofcourse till they enter into Graduation. Parents are trying to impart right character in to their kids. This is where we thought about Magazine having Kids section.

5. Few kids asked us questions like How did all elders beleived about Ramayana and Mahabharata. Questions are asked with sinceretiy not for fun. They are talking about Fiction and Non-Fiction. We thought may be Master gari Magazine is well meant for kids of this generation.

6. Most of the parents we talked to are expressing the ways to keep them engaged in a good way. We think there is a significant difference in the way we used to think and the way we are thinking about our kids now. We feel so happy to see the Kids talking about Baba. And all the time we thought we were not like this as kids. They are blessed to start their Childhood days with Baba in their minds and how blessed they will be if they grow with practising Baba's Teachings. Parents with right understanding are there and Kids with readyness to learn are there. How nice it would be if both of them have Master gari Magazine in their homes as a Guide.

May be we are looking at the small portion of the world. We request Parents to express their thoughts.

Good suggestion.

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I think a section on how to parent is of paramount importance, since kids imbibe things from parents unknowingly.

Jai Sai Master.
Jai Sai Master.

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 09:25:09 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

Not to go off topic, but I just hope parents dont start forcing kids to read those 1-2 pages and scold them if they dont do Parayana. :)

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 10:07:59 PM »
Jai Sai Master !


As posted by me
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Its my personal opinion that "Right Thinking" is the need of the hour.


As posted by Babugaru
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"Right thinking is necessary as Masters showed us, so that we may live Rightly."


Well not perfect, but still I deserve a round of applause :D

Jai Sai Master !

APPLAUSE APPLAUSE :) Sorry didnot find the clapping icon/symbol

Kids and parenting section, I guess if written directly from what Master garu or Amma garu told / or tells us would be great (or may be its on agenda already)......
As uttam garu said, kids look up to parents, but we should be good parents, and know correct parenting techniques
and horrible enough...... we take/can take several academic courses all the way to high level.... BUT we never take a parenting accredited course, ;)
in fact when is the correct time to take such a course.... junior college too young, once we become parents, too old and dont have time even for kids, leave alone a course :(

Om sai ram

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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 03:16:33 AM »
Jai Sai Master.

As Swarup garu suggested if we can bring forth about Master gari, Amma gari advise about Parenting, it would be excellent.

Let us analyze a bit more. Assume we live in any city in India and due to the competition in education , hardly our kids find time from the age of 5 years even to play as they are forced to study. Absolutely we will not ne in a position to suggest Paarayana for kids who can not find time even to play. Yes, here Paarayana, Magazine should reach Adults as the whole system needs to be changed.

But there are many places in this world where kids have more time even after spending lot of time for playing and studying with every weekend holidays and with relaxed timings of School. The remaining time in most of the cases is spent watching TV or playing games on internet and getting influenced by them. What Parenting techniques teach is divert the attention of kids to more useful activities.

Forcing kids for doing anything is not advisable. But let us be ready to show the good options availble for the kids through Magazine. Knowing about Baba, Master garu, Amma garu since their childhood would be very helpful to them. Any takers?

By the way, if my Sister's daughters read this, they definitely say  >:( what!!! you said this. we cant beleive this. do you know how many hours we study every day and and you know what we hardly have time to play.  :)  :)

Jai Sai Master.
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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2009, 03:41:47 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

Babu garu, Sai Bandhus,

We came across the following Magazines / Journal from of which we can get useful ideas in the current context.

1. 'The Mountain Path' about Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi's Teachings for the focus.
2. 'Mananam' Series of Sri Chinmayananda for the promotion as we did not read the complete Books.
3. 'Sri Ramakrishna Prabha' by Ramakrishna Math in Telugu for the presentation.

First two are widely spread through out the world. Principles are different and we are not going to discuss about them. Few factors like focus, promotion and presentation can be discussed. If fellow Sai Bandhus think it is appropriate for the purpose of this Thread and have any ideas, please share your thoughts.

Jai Sai Master.
Jai Sai Master.

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జై సాయి మాస్టర్,

నేను సైతం సమిధ నొక్కటి ఫ్రచార యజ్ఞానికి....


నాకు ప్రచార యజ్ఞానికి సంబంధించి బోలెడన్ని సందేహాలు వున్నాయి. ఆ సందేహాలు తీరితే  సలహాలు లెదా నా అభిప్రాయాలు తెలియచేయవచ్చు  అనుకున్నాను.

మొదట  మనం ప్రచారం చేస్తొంది మాస్టర్ గారి గురించా? లేక మాస్టర్ గారి ఫిలాసఫి గురించా? రెండింటికి తేడా వుందా? లేదా? తేడా వుంటే అది ఏ రకంగ వుంది? తేడా లేకపొతే ఏ రకంగా లేదు?

మనం ప్రచారం చేస్తొంది బాబా గురించి, దత్త్రత్రేయుడి గురించి కూడా అయితే " మనది" విశ్వవ్యాప్త మతం అనుకుంటే దత్తుడి ని ఎలా ఒక icon గా చూపిస్తాము?దత్తత్రేయ తత్వానికి హిందువులు పెట్టుకున్న పేరు దత్తుడు లేద దత్తాత్రేయుడు అని ఒక చొట మాస్టర్ గారు స్పష్టం గా చెప్పారు. అలా అయితే మనం దత్తుడిని, బాబా ని మాస్టర్ గారి ఫిలాసఫి కి విరుద్దంగా ఒక మతానికి పరిమితం చేస్తామా?
ద్వారక గారు తన ప్రసంగంలో మతానికున్న passion ని ignite చేస్తాను అంటే నాకు సరిగ్గా అర్ధం కాలేదు.
అసలు ఎవరైనా ద్వారక గారు ప్రసంగాన్ని తెలుగు చేస్తె చాలా ఉపయోగంగా వుంటుంది అనుకున్నాను.

నాకు తెలుగులో రాయటం వచ్చు అనుకున్నాను కాని రాస్తున్నపుడు కాని ఇది కూడా రానట్టు వుంది అని అర్ధం కాలేదు. ఈ జీవితానికి ఇంకా ఇలాంటివి ఎన్ని అర్ధం కావాల్సి వున్నాయో!

జై సాయి మాస్టర్.

jai saayi maasTar,

nEnu saitam samidha nokkaTi Prachaara yajnaaniki....


naaku prachaara yajnaaniki sambamdhimchi bOleDanni samdEhaalu vunnaayi. aa samdEhaalu teeritE  salahaalu ledaa naa abhipraayaalu teliyachEyavachchu  anukunnaanu.


modaTa  manam prachaaram chEstomdi maasTar gaari gurimchaaa? lEka maasTar gaari philaasaphi gurimchaa? remDimTiki tEDaa vumdaa? lEdaa? tEDaa vumTE adi E rakamga vumdi? tEDaa lEkapotE E rakamgaa lEdu?

manam prachaaram chEstomdi baabaa gurimchi, dattratrEyuDi gurimchi kooDaa ayitE " manadi" viSvavyaapta matam anukumTE dattuDi ni elaa oka #icon# gaa choopistaamu?dattatrEya tatvaaniki himduvulu peTTukunna pEru dattuDu lEda dattaatrEyuDu ani oka choTa maasTar gaaru spashTam gaa cheppaaru. alaa ayitE manam dattuDini, baabaa ni maasTar gaari philaasaphi ki viruddamgaa oka mataaniki parimitam chEstaamaa?
dwaaraka gaaru tana prasamgamlO mataanikunna #passion# ni #ignite# chEstaanu amTE naaku sariggaa ardham kaalEdu.
asalu evarainaa dwaaraka gaaru prasamgaanni telugu chEste chaalaa upayOgamgaa vumTumdi anukunnaanu.

naaku telugulO raayaTam vachchu anukunnaanu kaani raastunnapuDu kaani idi kooDaa raanaTTu vumdi ani ardham kaalEdu. ee jeevitaaniki imkaa ilaamTivi enni ardham kaavaalsi vunnaayO!

jai saayi maasTar.
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Re: PracharaYagnam
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2009, 07:07:49 PM »
జై సాయి మాష్టార్.

కల్పన గారు,

మా అభిప్రాయాలు.   

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మొదట  మనం ప్రచారం చేస్తొంది మాస్టర్ గారి గురించా? లేక మాస్టర్ గారి ఫిలాసఫి గురించా? రెండింటికి తేడా వుందా? లేదా? తేడా వుంటే అది ఏ రకంగ వుంది? తేడా లేకపొతే ఏ రకంగా లేదు?

బాబా గురించి చెప్పకుండా బాబా టీచింగ్స్ చెప్పగలమా? అలాగే మాష్టార్ గారి గురించి తెలుసుకోకుండా మనం ఏనాటికైన వారి టీచింగ్స్  అర్థం చేసుకోగలమా? మహాత్ముల జీవితములోని ప్రతి క్షణము మనకు ఒక పరమార్థాన్ని బోధిస్తుంది. ఒక్క ఉదాహరణ. ఈ రోజు మనమందరము మహాత్ములను, మహాత్ముల సమాధుల దర్శనము చేసుకోవాలన్న ప్రతి తపన వెనక మాష్టారు గారి కఠినమైన ఆచరణ వున్నది కదా!

అమ్మ గారు మే 2009 సాయిబాబా సంచిక లో ఒక్క మాట చెప్పారు.


" అయననేవారు - నేనెంతొ అన్వేషించి, సంవత్సరాల తరపడి ఆలోచించి తెలుసుకుని అనుభవించిన దానిని మీకు సులభంగ అందిస్తున్నాను. మీరు కష్టపడాల్సిన అవసరం లేకుండా ఎంతో తేలికగా అట్టి ఆనందాన్ని పొందవచ్చు అని ". 

మనమేనాటికైన బాబా , మాస్టారు గార్ల తపన, ప్రేమలను అర్థము చేసుకోగలమా ?   

అందు వల్ల రెండింటికి తేడా లేకపోగా మనమందరము మాస్టారు గారి గురించి తెలుసుకొవలసిన ఆవశ్యకత ఎంతైన వున్నదని మా అభిప్రాయము.


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దత్తత్రేయ తత్వానికి హిందువులు పెట్టుకున్న పేరు దత్తుడు లేద దత్తాత్రేయుడు అని ఒక చొట మాస్టర్ గారు స్పష్టం గా చెప్పారు. అలా అయితే మనం దత్తుడిని, బాబా ని మాస్టర్ గారి ఫిలాసఫి కి విరుద్దంగా ఒక మతానికి పరిమితం చేస్తామా?

దత్తత్రేయ తత్వానికి హిందువులు దత్తుడు లేదా దత్తాత్రేయుడు అని ఒక పేరు పెట్టుకుని వుండ వచ్చు గాక  కాని మాస్టరు గారు సాయి లీలామ్రుతము లో  ఏమి చెప్పారో గుర్తుకు తెచ్చుకుందాము.

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?Pno=SLA005 


" వీరందరి చరిత్రలూ కలిపి ఒకే దత్తాత్రేయుని చరిత్ర అన్న మాట. "

మహత్ములందరికీ ఏ మతం వుంది. వారి అవతరణ వెనక పరమ వుద్దేశ్యమే మానవులందరము ఎవరి మతాన్ని వారు తెలుసుకుంటూ, ధర్మాన్ని అచరించుకుంటూ అన్ని మతాలను గౌరవించడం తెలుసుకోవడమే కదా. 

ఒక పాఠకులుగా సాయిబాబా మ్యాగజైన్ ద్వారా మేము తెలుసుకున్నది కూడ ఇదే. ఇంగ్లీష్ మ్యాగజైన్ వుద్దేశ్యం కూడ ఇదే అయి వుంటుంది అని నమ్ముతున్నాము. 


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ద్వారక గారు తన ప్రసంగంలో మతానికున్న passion ని ignite చేస్తాను అంటే నాకు సరిగ్గా అర్ధం కాలేదు.

మాస్టారు గారు వ్రాసిన ' మతం ఎందుకు ' పుస్తకము  బాబు గారి మాటలు అర్థం కావడానికి సహయం చేస్తుందనుకుంటున్నాము. మేము కూడ చదివి చాల రోజులయింది. సాయి బంధువులారా మీకు వీలైతే మీ అభిప్రాయాలు పంచుకోండి.     
         
జై సాయి మాష్టార్.

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