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Ananth

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #75 on: April 27, 2009, 11:31:34 AM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..

Dear Forum members, my sincere apologies, I missed one point here. That Tshirt in my dream actually belongs to Babu garu. I was thinking "how beautiful it is" and "I wish I could wear it". That's when I got that as prasadam from Amma garu. She also mentioned "nuvvu chaala adrushtavantudivi, adi Babu gari Tshirt".

In retrospect, after Babu gari replies, I coming to know that Tshirt is not that eaily worn.

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Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Swamy Sai!

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #76 on: April 27, 2009, 11:35:51 AM »
Jai Sai Master!!

Read the first two paragraphs of "Satsanga Mahima" in Sai Leelamritam, I suggest.

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/readsl.asp?Pno=SL0151

 Then read "Maanavudu  -  Vyaktigata Samasya" in Matam Enduku.

Then read "Vaadaalo Dongalunnaru..." in Prabothamritam and Pravachanaalu.

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The reason why I wrote this is, as I wrote in the last few posts, I started feeling that by limiting to our own opinions of things, we stop seeing the bigger meaning (true) in everything. In Master's books, in our own minds, etc. And I think that that is the reason for a resistance to complete change in oneself.

When I looked at it this way, it felt as though a missing piece clicked in my head. I saw my own aspirations of what I think is 'good' coming in the way of what I wanted Baba to do, which in turn makes my devotion pale and juiceless in the fact that deep down inside, i think that  i know more than Baba does and so what I think is good should be done. Similarly, I started seeing all the symptoms that we call 'bad' in myself, and in almost everyone.

It felt as if each one of us, as normal human beings, have this fundamental problem of identifying with images, which creates in us a craving for security, for company, for jealousy, for anger and ambition, for domination of others and situations (we call it control), goals and their feebleness, etc.
For eg, we all (all normal human beings) want others to think good of us. We want  to exert our influence over our lives and in turn, over other situations and others lives. We want to be in control (dominant). We 'act' manners, to make it so. But arent these the same qualities that drive a man to become a false guru??  Only that such a 'bad' person has the same qualities in a more public way and that his talents are used to satisfy them, and in us, they lie in us privately. Right?? Then why do we think that such a person alone is bad? Dont we have the symptoms of the same disease?

When one sees it this way, one sees the theives in the house. And going one step further, one sees that one's own weaknesses prompt and prosper these theives. And such weaknesses arise from one's own inadequecies which are there based on one's own opinions (images) of oneself and of the world.

Most of us think that we are rational, intelligent, good, etc. But we also know that most of the times we act irrationally and based on instinct and emotion, without analying the situation (or ourselves) to the full with intellect, and that we 'Act' in a good way while our mind inherently runs in a bad way. (eg. we get angry, we control it! its not that we never get angry! or another example is that we wont let our jealousy or lust to show up in our public image!)

So, this lead me to see that what we think is 'good' or 'bad', most of the times, is all based on these symptoms. And unless one doesnt get rid of these symptoms, one cant get better.

The question still remains.

WHAT TO DO?

what to do?

Jai Sai Master!!

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2009, 02:40:18 AM »
Jai Sai Master!!

So....


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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2009, 12:48:05 PM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..

Babu garu, please forgive me!

Give me one more day, and I will complete those chapters. I will post my thoughts ASAP.

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When I looked at it this way, it felt as though a missing piece clicked in my head. I saw my own aspirations of what I think is 'good' coming in the way of what I wanted Baba to do, which in turn makes my devotion pale and juiceless in the fact that deep down inside, i think that  i know more than Baba does and so what I think is good should be done. Similarly, I started seeing all the symptoms that we call 'bad' in myself, and in almost everyone.

Babu garu and Sai Bandhus, this is an enlightening point as I can completely associate myself with this trait. Many years back, I wanted something and I prayed to Baba earnestly to grant me that wish. Somehow, I kept getting messages that I might not get that. So, I told myself, "Baba, please grant me this wish. If somehow, that wish is not sutable for me, then please make it suitable for me".

I am just getting a faint idea of your teachings.

Also, I asked for "Divine intervention" many times previously which I am coming to think of, in retrospect, how bad it is.

I will complete reading those 3 chapters ASAP (ofcourse understanding part is much more difficult and I pray to Sri Master to give me that knowledge) and then I will put forth my doubts.

With Regards,
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Swamy Sai!

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2009, 11:10:48 AM »
Jai Sai Master !

Dear Babugaru,

Please give us some more time before taking this thread further ..

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #80 on: May 22, 2009, 07:20:57 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

Yes, need more time, Iam trying to catch up, as till now, with whatever free time I had I was busy with texting Master gari speech.
I need to read many times and also the chapters that Babugaru suggested to understand the babugari's
response.
One thing Iam begining to understand is, may be Iam carrying lot of useless baggage(thoughts and impressions about myself) with me.Please hold on, Iam trying to catch up.

Jai Sai Master!
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: Goal of Life - Thinking aloud
« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2009, 04:07:37 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

So..

we form images and all that i have written... whats it got to do with spirituality? why spirituality? happiness, betterment.... why??? in what sense???

think of this too, along with the earlier posts before we discuss more..

does man need to change? Change for what? into what?

how does a change come about? what makes people change? how can there be 'permanent' betterment? (not the superfluous temporary betterment..) how does that happen?

Change comes when the image of man about himself changes. Think about it. Then discuss as to why spirituality, what is spirituality, how should it come about.. and the more pressing immediate concern, how can one live better.. and what is better and what is the process (theoretically) to reach there.

Jai Sai Master!!