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soya

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sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« on: June 17, 2009, 07:33:47 AM »
jai sai master ,    recently I noticed an interest in reading the sri gurucharitra . and i started the reading it. And
 I could do the parayanam satisfactaroly .

  But suddenly I am feeling too sleepy and dozing off.  i was not able to continue the parayanam after that.

I am really surprised why this has been happening to me.

could anybody help me with my problem.


                         jai sai master.

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 09:35:21 AM »
Master garu has mentioned that if we chew few tulasi leaves and drink water it will not come (same as teertham).

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 12:10:54 PM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..
Jai Sai Master, Sowjanya garu..

I don't know about Sri Guru Charitra because of the restrictions of the parayana of that holy book. But other books of Master garu, what Sudhakar garu said is really a good point, as mentioned by Master garu. It might be difficult to get Tulasi leaves outside India, especially in North America. For those, people, Fresh Holy Basil leaves are also good. They taste almost same with good effect.

More than that, you can try getting up (as soon as you realize that you dozed off) and try to do some stretching rapidly for a minute of two. Then breathe with your nose deeply. This worked for me. Please read the first 5 chapters of Dhyana Yoga Sarwaswamu which extensively deals with concentration problems, sleeping problems etc.

http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/dhyanayogasarvaswamu/Chapter1.html

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jai Sai Master!
Jai Sai Master!
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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 07:08:53 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

Dhyana Yoga Sarvasvam reminds me .. Mastergaru says that think you are angry (mentally) and that you are jumping ! - Based on my recall value, please read the book for what Mastergaru says exactly ..

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 08:48:26 PM »
jai sai master ,   Thanks sudhakar garu for the help .   but my problem is different I feel . what Ananth garu and Asterias garu mentioned is my problem and the solution .

Yesterday I was doing the parayanam of sri gurucharitra and when I was half way through I started thinking whether  what ever mentioned in the  book is true ( siddayogi mentions that  interest to read the sri gurucharitra itself indicates Gurukripa and reading the holy book means  sri gurudu is with you .....).

And I was also thinking that why not we keep sri gurucharitra as a subject in the schools to
educate the children at their youngest age to reap the best benifits in their lives.

                 when i started thinking like that I started yawning like anything and going into a deep sleep uncontrollably.

 what I felt was If I doubt or make my own judgements of sri gurucharitra I was  getting to yawning and sleep.

                                                                                                                   jai sai master.

« Last Edit: June 17, 2009, 08:50:30 PM by sowjanya »

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 09:48:04 PM »
hello all,

i am right now reading sai satcharithra and i find the same problem. i feel sleepy. i dont hv any sleep problems but still when i read the book, i feel sleepy. Also so many questions come into my mind that i fail to do it with 100% faith.

Please advice me on how to do it in a manner such that i can gain total faith and benifit from it. most of the times, i tend to do it to in order get my wishes fullfilled. i feel i shud nt think like that rather i shud do it without any such motive.

I am in US, so it might be difficult to get Tulsi leaves, i shall try to get basil leaves.

-Sandy

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2009, 09:55:38 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

Sowjanya garu , Sandy garu,

Please try reading here about the discussion we had some time back. Please read both the pages till the end. It may help you.

" Faith in Baba and Parayana "
http://www.saimasterforums.org/index.php?topic=394.0

Please share your thoughts to continue the discussion back here.

Jai Sai Master.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2009, 01:06:26 AM by saiuttampallavi »
Jai Sai Master.

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2009, 10:18:05 PM »
To get faith, Master himself said we need to read "EdiNijam", "VijnaanaVeechikalu", "MatamEnduku"...+ there were good articles in old saibaba magazine.

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 10:51:36 PM »
Jai sai master,   now I remember very well  I had encountered same situation with my  sai satcharitra parayanam in the early beginning of   2nd and third time parayanam .( I felt very bored to read  the same book ,same topics again and again and wondered how can I make it )everyday parayanam in my life. And felt its not possible at all for me.

Then i wrote my problem to BABU garu where he mentioned some solutions from sai master's books.
Truly speaking about myself , i was totally failed to understand BABA's satcharitra itself and  so I couldnt understand the solution completely but veguely.

But to my surprise I  was able to do everyday parayanam for the last 3 yrs without  any boredom,doubts, or any disturbances and was
very  happy too for doing it.

what I felt in my heart the reason for my sucessfulness in doing the parayanam  was only BABU gari and Amma gari blessings

and sankalpam for me to do it.( AS i saw in satcharitra the parayanam will be successful with only Guru's blessings.).

Even though I wanted to understand all masters' teachings in Dhyan yoga sarvaswam and vijnana veechikalu I was not able to.

so i stopped to open those books .

so I strongly feel for ignorant people like me ,only  BABA's blessings and sankalpam works out everything.

BABA's sankalpam can only make me understand those holy books not with my mere wish to read them.

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 04:05:44 AM »
hello all,

i dont understand Sai Satcharithra completely and i do feel stressful when i read it as i find it hard to balance work and my reading schedule. because of this i feel sleepy when i read. however, somehow Baba makes me read it repeatedly.

my problem is that each time i read it, i find some statements which i dont agree with or i wud rather say, i fail to understand inner meanings. one of the biggest issues i find impossible to accept is that Baba says - we have to leave attachments. being a human, i dont know how it works, and infact i dont want to leave my attachments. in fact, i do parayana so that my wishes are fullfilled and all my loved ones are happy.

Please can some one let me know if it is wrong to do parayana in order to get our wishes - which are totally materialist like getting a job, fullfilled? manytimes i feel bad for doing parayana in order to get wishes granted.

thank u
Sandy

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2009, 06:34:16 PM »
Jai Sai Master,

  Sandy garu,

 As Baba specified in 'Sai Leela Amrutam', everyone will reach Sadguru for fulfilling their wishes initially and once all the wishes, problems are solved then they will follow Sadguru finally...

 So, doing Parayana for the sake of fulfilling the wishes is fine initially, but we should  keep the belief(Viswasam)  in Sadguru once the wish is fullfilled and should continue the confidence all the times in all situations(for which we need to make rigorous attempts in remembering Sadgaru )....

 There is no stop for wishing God for fulfilling thier needs,So if we leave everything to Baba decision, He will make the best utilisation of all the things ..

As Baba is every where, presents in every one and knows all the things(Sarvagna), He will provide all the things if it is really needed and avoid all worst conditions... we think generally some as worst conditions but really they are not (Sadguru always does the best for us if we trust him)..

So, only thing we need is to 'Trust Sadguru'...question may arise how can we think and remember always, their Parayana comes...

 Suppose say you do Parayana for 30 min, then you should think about that Parayana when ever you are free( even 10 min), Try to remember each word what Master wrote and think about that, Suppose say you have thought for 1 hr in a day( This means totally you have done 1 hr 30 min Prayana in a day)...
So, you have saved 1 hr 30 min in a day remembering Baba( avoiding unnecessary thoughts)...


Hope your doubt regarding the Parayana for wishes is cleared..

Jai Sai Master

 


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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2009, 07:01:52 PM »
Jai Sai Master,

Generally, Lack of interest leads to Sleepy(drowsiness) while reading books...So, Reading brings with enthusiasm, Zeal, happiness, trust in doing the Parayana will avoid drowsiness ( Concentrate on what you read)

Once you complete Parayana, try to recollect the words (In my situation: most of the times, I missed many sentences/words after reading Parayana and couldn't able to explain to myself - Then had the question I cann't remember the Parayana for myself, then how I can I tell to other one, which made me think a lot and started reading with concentration, then all the drowsiness started disappearing even doing parayana at 2.30 AM midnight)

Dont listen to Heart(Manasu) which always makes to avoid all the hurdle things(reading in night etc)...

 So Parayana with interest will avoid sleepiness (even a single letter in the Love letter will not be forgotten by the Lover)....


Jai Sai Master....

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 07:52:42 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

Dear saibandhus,

I see that all of us a couple of problems, thy might or might not be interdependent, but this is what they are :-

1. Feeling sleepy perhaps due to fatigue (getting up early in the morning to do parayana) and trying to juggle between the "amount to be read" vs. the daily routine (office, studies etc)

2. Incomplete understanding.

I ll tackle the 2nd point first.I am not sure whether everyone is reading Sai Baba Jeevita Charitra ( or Sai Baba the Master ) written by Ekkirala Bharadwaja (Mastergaru). In case one is reading this book, Mastergaru clearly mentions that to understand this, it is paramount to read Sainath Prabodhamritum. Similarly a firm grasp on Edi Nijam and Matam Enduku will help us in understanding "srushti tatvam" and "bhagvantadu tatvam". What this does is improve our understanding. Whenever there is the element of understanding, interest never wavers and each word seems new.

Regarding feeling sleepy due to fatigue, it happens to me to. I hav noticed this in my case. When I am not fatigued, my thoughts might waver during the Parayana, however its possible for me to come back to the Parayana track easily since I am "awake". however when I am feeling sleepy, almost the same thing happens. Some word or line interests me or I think about something similar that triggers some other thought. Howvever instead of day dreaming I actually dream! The thoughts go somewhere, and like a jerk I come back to my "senses". This is exactly what happened to me when I was used to study for my exams early in the morning !!

One of the thing that Mastergaru suggests and I found it pretty interesting is that we should light exercises before sitting down for Parayana ( Pari prasna). It is said that after exercise, sitting down in dhyana also becomes easier.


But what amazes me .. is that however number of times it is said that do this or do that before Parayana or after Parayana, I have not see "anybody" do that (me included). Its strange that there are so many ways in which Mastergaru tries to encourage us to do Parayana ( and Sadhana) in the right way. Still, we always falter, searching for some technique which we think would suit us more.

Mastergaru tells us in speeches that if you sit for sadhana (Parayana etc) for 1 hour a day and spend the rest of time in other "wordly things", it will not make a difference. Its like taking a loan and never being able to pay it back. Similarly He also also says that when a particular way of sadhana becomes same, we should change it, so that it doesnt become boring. Similarly in the speech regarding release of Dattavatara Mahatyam, that when we are not able to ( as in dont want to ) do Paryana etc, thinking about the holy places and feeling as if we are there is another way of sadhana and that He is telling it to us since He practiced it. Yet before I heard the speech, no one ever mentioned that to me. Dhyana Yoga Sarwasam is a gold mine, literally GOLD. However I am yet to see even a single person try doing those things !!

Are we all ( including me) disbelieving all these things ???


Jai Sai Master !

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 07:54:06 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

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So Parayana with interest will avoid sleepiness (even a single letter in the Love letter will not be forgotten by the Lover)....

But the question is that do we feel the same about Parayana, with the same intensity ??

Jai Sai Master !

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Re: sleepyhead while Doing the parayanam
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 09:58:13 PM »
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Mastergaru tells us in speeches that if you sit for sadhana (Parayana etc) for 1 hour a day and spend the rest of time in other "wordly things", it will not make a difference.


these are the things i fail to understand. My question is how can we do Sadana whole day as we have to work and take care of "world things"?
So if i do parayana for one hr and do other things like work, shopping... will my parayana not make any difference in my life?

thank u
Sandy