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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2009, 07:53:36 AM »
Quiet frankly, I am not sure why the comparision to scientists was brought.... We need not be scientists  to be good job holders, husband/wife or good mothers or /fathers :)

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2009, 07:59:25 AM »
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And in Prabothamritam here  :
http://www.divyajanani.org/saibharadwaja/books/prabodhamrutham/P21_30.html
to end of chapter.

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జీవితంలో చదువుకోవడం,వృత్తి కొనసాగించడం,సంసారిక జీవిత భాద్యతలను నిర్వహించడం,బిడ్డలను సాకడం - యివ్వన్ని సంతోషంతో మనిషి కొనసాగించడు,గత్యంతరం లేక చేస్తాడు.-----(prabothamritam)

How to be detached (nishkama karma) while performing all our duties( like kid's education, marriages etc)?

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 08:06:45 AM »
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And in Prabothamritam here  :


జీవితంలో చదువుకోవడం,వృత్తి కొనసాగించడం,సంసారిక జీవిత భాద్యతలను నిర్వహించడం,బిడ్డలను సాకడం - యివ్వన్ని సంతోషంతో మనిషి కొనసాగించడు,గత్యంతరం లేక చేస్తాడు.-----(prabothamritam)




so is it reasonable to think, the sentence means,,,,,manishi gathyantharam lekha puttadu, gathyantharam lekha brathukuthunnadu...... or those things should be done happily....?? 

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 09:14:40 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Excellent post Sai Siva garu.

Saiprince,
Scientists are brought into comparison(quite unconsciously and with best intentions only) because they seem to represent the best of human intellect. Its like saying "Even Arjuna was afraid.." Not that Arjuna was specifically the only one that is afraid, but EVEN the great Arjuna, who seems to be above the average human, was afraid! Dont take it to heart too much.


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And in Prabothamritam here  :


జీవితంలో చదువుకోవడం,వృత్తి కొనసాగించడం,సంసారిక జీవిత భాద్యతలను నిర్వహించడం,బిడ్డలను సాకడం - యివ్వన్ని సంతోషంతో మనిషి కొనసాగించడు,గత్యంతరం లేక చేస్తాడు.-----(prabothamritam)




so is it reasonable to think, the sentence means,,,,,manishi gathyantharam lekha puttadu, gathyantharam lekha brathukuthunnadu...... or those things should be done happily....??

It means, we aught  to do them happily, but we dont.

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 09:15:03 PM »

Scientists are brought into comparison ............ Dont take it to heart too much.





No NoNo.... thats fine.... ACtually, I dont care, because I am neither a philosopher nor a scientist nor a mahatma.... More horribly, I dont even aspire to be one :)

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2009, 11:43:22 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

In the light of what Sai Siva and I have posted from Master's works, we should try and see what is best for the humanity. But, we all have weaknesses and cannot go beyond a point (and that is where we have to try our best to improve from our situation, by understanding what Master says). Hence, we can see the best and we can try to accommodate to the maximum extent possible, in our lives, for the best.

A couple more articles of Master are available in the previous magazines that we put pdfs of, on saibharadwaja.org regarding kids and education. I will put up one more now, which is going to come in the december magazine.  I also want to present excerpts from a speech by Master E.K. regarding child upbringing which He gave in germany ( I guess, may be it is geneva ). I urge people not to share it outside here as the permission from Master E.K.'s family has been obtained for sharing it just for this discussion. I request people to buy the collection of His speeches so that we dont fall prey to the ugly habbit of piracy, that too of Spiritual Master pieces.

The will come up in my next post.. (currently transcribing the speech of Master E.K.)

After we see that, we have to look at our own values and what we are providing our next generation currently. Then we have to look at what we can change, atleast in our own little community and its children, to provide them the best. Then we have to look at our own situation and see what we can do about it. And based on the above mentioned ideas that are presented by the truly Greats (Mahatmas), we should recheck our opinions regarding issues like mothers working, child upbringing, schools, education, co-education schools, family system, etc. and clear out any faults in them, in the light of what Masters told. Atleast at an intellectual and understanding level we should be able to appreciate what the Masters told, even if we cannot follow them currently in our lives. Then, out of the discrepancy comes the repentance, and out of it comes the drive and ultimately, the desired change.

But, if we plan to stick on to our own, dearly held, half-baked opinions, further reading of this thread is entertainment at best, and a mere time waste at its worst. But reading ahead will atleast give us hope of change. So, I suggest we read ahead carefully.

Jai Sai Master!!
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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2009, 03:05:00 AM »
Jai Sai Master!
                    Babu garu, where can we buy Master E.Ks speeches?

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2009, 09:23:13 AM »
Jai Sai Master !

Where do you stay ?

Correct address will be provided.

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2009, 09:52:08 AM »
OM SRI SAIRAM !

Dwaraknath garu, Sai Siva garu,

Good to know the basics once again. Thanks for giving us a good platfarm to learn the new things,and pointing to the Prabodamrutam pages about the Dharma artha kaama mokshalu section.

I had a doubt when ever  I read this chapter. These days what ever earnings made by any one stands for Dharma?
For example  i am taking the consideration of software engineers.

Generally a SW engineer get paid for a 8hr/day work, but i strongly feel that many of them wont work for the 8hrs for each day. There can be very few days where he works for morethan 8 hrs, but generally it will be only for a max of 6 hrs. the other two hours generally spent on browsing and  chating..etc.
but still all get paid for 8hrs.
In this context are the earnings bound to Dharma?

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But, if we plan to stick on to our own, dearly held, half-baked opinions, further reading of this thread is entertainment at best, and a mere time waste at its worst. But reading ahead will atleast give us hope of change. So, I suggest we read ahead carefully.
Is this only for this thread?
I hope the statement holds good for the great books and speeches by MAHATMAs as well.

Looking forward for your next post

Regards,
Sateesh

OM SRI SAIRAM !



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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2009, 11:48:05 AM »
Jai Sai Master

Asterias garu,

From where can people in US order Master E.Ks speeches?

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 12:07:40 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

I am not sure. A better idea would be to place the order through some of your relative/family friend in India and get it to USA.

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 06:16:18 PM »
Jai Sai Master!
                    I stay in US, but I am visiting Vizag for a month starting this sunday. I am also visiting Master's Samadhi in Ongole in the last week of November. Please let me know if I can get the speeches in any of these places.

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 07:26:15 PM »
Jai Sai Master !

These are the details for ordering Master EK's speeches

Phone No. : 91-891-2748679, 91-9348003300
email: ekdweepam@yahoo.com

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Re: Pillala pempakam - Upbringing the next generation
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 10:31:15 PM »
Jai Sai Master

asterias garu,

Thank you very much. I will contact them.

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 08:27:43 PM »
Jai Sai Master.

We would like to share our happiness with all Sai Bandhus. We have started last week with Paarayana of 'Sai Master Smrutulu' and read Sri Ananta Krishna gari words on Monday followed by Sri Punnaiah Sastry gari words till today. The conversations and experiences between Master garu and Sri Krishnamacharyulu garu and with others who had the fortune of being in Their presence brings immense happiness which can not be described in words. How They lived Their entire lives will remain as clear guide, clear map to us who gets lost every now and then even after coming to Their feet.

It is very touching and humbled to see just mention of 'Sri Kirshnamacharyulu garu' again here. We can only pray to Them to keep us at Their feet always.

Dear Satsang Team, starting another thread for 'Sri Kirshnamacharyulu garu' may give an opportunity for Sai Bandhus to share their valuable experiences with teachings of 'Sri Kirshnamacharyulu garu'. Please move our message also.

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