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Ananth

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A doubt from my daughter
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:03:59 PM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu faru..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..

Dearest Babu garu and Forum members,

I am in a particular predicament! My daughter is 6 years old and she does parayana of Leelamrutam (just 3 to 5 lines with me beside her explaining as simply as possible).

Now that she is growing up and started asking questions, I usually observe what group of questions she asks. Recently she started asking "what is death"? Because we see that term being mentioned in Leelamrutam. And we also see that term in other places too. Since the last one year I have always explained it as "leaving Earth". I know it's a lame way of explaining but again, how can I explain in any other way?

It has also lead to her asking "what is leaving Earth?". So far, it has come to a point where I tell her with an example as follows and the conversation stops there.

"Our bodies are made in such a way that we can live on earth only for a certain age. After that, we must go 'some place else' and that is what 'leaving Earth is' ....is".

How do I explain her in a correct way? I know for sure that pretty soon she is going to start asking about Tsunamis, the Earth Quakes, the killings etc. Surprisingly, I felt rather more comfortable explaining to her about "Samadhi" when she asked about it.

Best regards to all,
Jai Sai Master!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2011, 07:45:34 AM by Dwarakanath »
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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 10:51:48 PM »
Jai SaiMaster,

Dear Ananth garu,

How about drawing a parallel with that of life of a flower, explaining about what will happen
to a flower by end of day and explaining that Something similar happens to humanbeings, not so fast but little
bit slow. I have also a question from my son, I will share that soon here once this question of yours is answered
:-). Hmm the next question if you explain this way will be, why we/flower dies. Just thinking loud.

Jai SaiMaster
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 10:28:04 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Tell her, that to understand death, is the final goal of all humans. Once we understand death, tell her, that we become on with God/Baba.

Also, start explaining food chain, then explaining life cycles of various things, but emphasize the recycling of energy through out the system. Then tell her that 'death' means, leaving this body and taking up a new one, just like leaving a shirt and wearing a new one. Then tell her that thats what all the animals in the food chain do.

Thats a good start. later on, we can go ahead and explain based on subsequent questions.

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 08:39:07 PM »
Jai SaiMaster,

Dear SaiBandhus,

Want to share the questions my son had, Ananth garu hope you don't mind me using this thread :-).

a)Siva himself gave the boon to Bhasmasura and Siva is god, how come after giving the boon, he had to
   run away from Bhasmasura.

b)Does Rishis always curse ? Are they always angry, Why do they curse ?

Please share your thoughts

Jai SaiMaster
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 11:26:56 PM »
Jai Sai Master!

Terrific questions by you son!!

For the first question, ask him to think about it.

For the second, tell him that rishis are always happy and never angry. Some rishis, however, get angered, but their anger is not like ours. Their anger is like the heat of the fire. And their anger always created 'good', just like the heat of the fire provides us with cooked food. Our anger is not like that. Our anger causes troubles. Their anger causes good. btw. how old is your son?

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 08:23:04 AM »
Jai SaiMaster,

He is 8.4years old.

Thank you Babugaru.Ok, I will ask him to think and come up with his own answers regarding why Lord Siva has to do like that.

Jai SaiMaster

గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 08:36:26 AM »
Dwarka Uncle and Swayam Uncle,

I just read your posts and its already 10 o' clock and I really really want to participate in this discussion, but its too late for me now. Can I share my views with you after I get back from school tomorrow?? (I hope I don't have any homework tomorrow :))
"We should not bother about a wish that Baba did not fulfill because we should believe that he did it for our own good. We need strong faith in Baba to believe that he does things for our own good."

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 11:36:46 AM »
Jai SaiMaster

Dear Srusti, no problem, take your time :-).
Unlike your homework there is no last date here for submitting answers   :D

Jai SaiMaster
« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 11:51:17 AM by swayam »
గురుబోధయొక్క సారం గ్రహించి దాని ప్రకారం మన యోచనను, పనులను సంస్కరించుకొన్నపుడే మనం నిజంగా గురువును ఆశ్రయించినట్లు. అలాగాకుంటే అది మిథ్యాభక్తే.
Whatever we practice,becomes the swabhAvA.If control is practiced persistently that will become the swabhAvA.

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 01:37:44 PM »
Jai SaiMaster,

a)Siva himself gave the boon to Bhasmasura and Siva is god, how come after giving the boon, he had to
   run away from Bhasmasura.

b)Does Rishis always curse ? Are they always angry, Why do they curse ?
Jai SaiMaster

even i used have same kind of questions in my childhood but everybody use to laugh aloud :)
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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 07:39:25 PM »
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a)Siva himself gave the boon to Bhasmasura and Siva is god, how come after giving the boon, he had to
   run away from Bhasmasura.

b)Does Rishis always curse ? Are they always angry, Why do they curse ?

Jai Sai Master!

Yes, I used to have such questions and still have many :D....the solution is 'parayana' of mahatmas charitras. In the light of masters litarature I got answers for somany such questions....
Jai Sai Master!


« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 08:08:44 PM by saimaster_eb »
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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2011, 12:18:32 PM »


Om Sai Master!
I pray Sai Master to bless the Kids.

Ref: Ananth gari post : A doubt from my daughter, March, 22. 2011

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Recently she started asking "what is death"? Because we see that term being mentioned in Leelamrutam. And we also see that term in other places too. Since the last one year I have always explained it as "leaving Earth".


Ananth garu Death means not "leaving Earth"  
It is " leaving the (this)  Body"

In  sai master smaran
mannava satyam


                                                                              




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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2011, 11:51:35 PM »
Jai Sai Master!!

It is very useful to me.

Thanks alot.



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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2011, 12:51:23 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

I think, explaining death, in terms of 'food cycle' and 'mineral cycle' would give a great environmental outlook upfront. Also, make sure to mention that its the 'body' that is replaced, like a wrinkled shirt, and a new one is born, and that the same prana that is in all, keeps on changing its appearance and that that is the essence of birth and death. Shall I explain this in detail? Or do you get it?

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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2011, 06:51:58 AM »
Jai Sai Master, Babu garu..
Jai Sai Master, Sai Bandhus..
Jai Sai Master, Satyam garu..

Satyam garu, what I meant was, the "life" in the body leaving Earth. Hope I was correct.

Babu garu, for the purpose of my own understanding, please do explain in detail. I would love to read more from you Babu garu. A couple of months back, I was reading the latest experiments being done on "Out of Body Experiences" "Near Death Experiences" etc (Internet calls it OBEs and NDEs) and the results are quite interesting. I mean, when I read something, I always take a meta-physical & spiritual viewpoint rather than a scientific viewpoint (that being me without any major 'logical' reason) and that's why I said "interesting", because what Master garu discussed and which has been mentioned in Mahatmula Mudu Biddadu pretty much clears much of the air. And oh! By the way, these experiments that I read were a result of me reading from Mahatmula Muddu Biddadu.


Best regards,
Jai Sai Master!

PS: Again, the scientific community was quick to its own defense trying to put a perspective, by defining the NDEs as hallucinations and that a similar experience can be had through a drug, I can't recall which one it is. Babu garu, my doubt is, can a drug re-create a meta-physical experience?? There is a website which regularly updates the latest NDEs/OBEs and which discusses/argues about its existence/non-existence.
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Re: A doubt from my daughter
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2011, 10:01:03 AM »
Jai Sai Master!

Ananthgaru,


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because what Master garu discussed and which has been mentioned in Mahatmula Mudu Biddadu pretty much clears much of the air. And oh! By the way, these experiments that I read were a result of me reading from Mahatmula Muddu Biddadu.

which incident you are talking about, form mahatmula muddu biddadu. can you elaborate? Is it master garu 'suggesting the name' or something else.

did i miss anything??
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